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	<title>Comments on: Jesus the Man</title>
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		<title>By: William Tyndale</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondtheboxpodcast.com/2008/08/jesus-the-man/comment-page-1/#comment-2629</link>
		<dc:creator>William Tyndale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I need to hold my thoughts until after the podcasts...otherwise I end up doing this all the time. Just a thought on why Jesus had to be anointed. 

 John said that he needed to be baptized by Jesus. No doubt he was right. And he and his family recognized Who they were seeing. So there is an understanding by those &quot;in the know&quot; that this man was not a man like any other (at the least). Thus, for Jesus to be baptized was necessary to follow the pattern already set down. It wasn&#039;t that Jesus didn&#039;t already have the Spirit of God (otherwise His debating with the theologians of the day at 12 years of age was a mere act of human genius expressing itself...and his response just one of arrogance and self-importance), but rather that there was something that Jesus - in the form of a man - had to go through. Hebrews 5:8 says He had to learn obedience. That doesn&#039;t mean He sinned (otherwise Hebrews contradicts itself - 4:15), but rather that He was submitted to earthly masters and outward forms for a time so that there would be no deviation from what was laid down in the Old Testament. Not that Jesus necessarily needed the overt ceremony, but that the anointing was necessary to inaugurate His open, earthly ministry. A lot like they would have anointed kings as a public declaration.

 That&#039;s what I see going on there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I need to hold my thoughts until after the podcasts&#8230;otherwise I end up doing this all the time. Just a thought on why Jesus had to be anointed. </p>
<p> John said that he needed to be baptized by Jesus. No doubt he was right. And he and his family recognized Who they were seeing. So there is an understanding by those &#8220;in the know&#8221; that this man was not a man like any other (at the least). Thus, for Jesus to be baptized was necessary to follow the pattern already set down. It wasn&#8217;t that Jesus didn&#8217;t already have the Spirit of God (otherwise His debating with the theologians of the day at 12 years of age was a mere act of human genius expressing itself&#8230;and his response just one of arrogance and self-importance), but rather that there was something that Jesus &#8211; in the form of a man &#8211; had to go through. <a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=49&amp;passage=Hebrews+5%3A8" class="bibleref" title="NASB Hebrews 5:8" target="_new">Hebrews 5:8</a> says He had to learn obedience. That doesn&#8217;t mean He sinned (otherwise Hebrews contradicts itself &#8211; 4:15), but rather that He was submitted to earthly masters and outward forms for a time so that there would be no deviation from what was laid down in the Old Testament. Not that Jesus necessarily needed the overt ceremony, but that the anointing was necessary to inaugurate His open, earthly ministry. A lot like they would have anointed kings as a public declaration.</p>
<p> That&#8217;s what I see going on there.</p>
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		<title>By: William Tyndale</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondtheboxpodcast.com/2008/08/jesus-the-man/comment-page-1/#comment-2628</link>
		<dc:creator>William Tyndale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting podcast. For what it&#039;s worth, I mostly side with you on this one. I don&#039;t know how you can get in this discussion without discussing whether or not Jesus was God - as you found out.

 The verse that comes to mind is Jesus&#039; reply to the Pharisees in John 8:58. At the moment, that&#039;s the only example I can find of Him basically saying that He is God (or at least on some sort of par with God) other than maybe John 14:9. 

 The statements in John 8 seem to make it clear that Jesus, on some level, is NOT what any other human is or will be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting podcast. For what it&#8217;s worth, I mostly side with you on this one. I don&#8217;t know how you can get in this discussion without discussing whether or not Jesus was God &#8211; as you found out.</p>
<p> The verse that comes to mind is Jesus&#8217; reply to the Pharisees in <a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=49&amp;passage=John+8%3A58" class="bibleref" title="NASB John 8:58" target="_new">John 8:58</a>. At the moment, that&#8217;s the only example I can find of Him basically saying that He is God (or at least on some sort of par with God) other than maybe <a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=49&amp;passage=John+14%3A9" class="bibleref" title="NASB John 14:9" target="_new">John 14:9</a>. </p>
<p> The statements in <a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=49&amp;passage=John+8" class="bibleref" title="NASB John 8" target="_new">John 8</a> seem to make it clear that Jesus, on some level, is NOT what any other human is or will be.</p>
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		<title>By: Raborn</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondtheboxpodcast.com/2008/08/jesus-the-man/comment-page-1/#comment-348</link>
		<dc:creator>Raborn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 16:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JeffinLA,
Thanks for stopping by.  Hope you&#039;ll stick around and add your voice to the conversation :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JeffinLA,<br />
Thanks for stopping by.  Hope you&#8217;ll stick around and add your voice to the conversation <img src='http://www.beyondtheboxpodcast.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: JeffinLA</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondtheboxpodcast.com/2008/08/jesus-the-man/comment-page-1/#comment-317</link>
		<dc:creator>JeffinLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 03:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BigC from bearcrawling.com turned me on to your podcast. I really enjoyed this episode. Thanks for all the pondering...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BigC from bearcrawling.com turned me on to your podcast. I really enjoyed this episode. Thanks for all the pondering&#8230;</p>
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