Ray and Steve begin a 2-part discussion about the death of Jesus on the cross.  Was the death of Jesus the punishment of God taken out on Jesus in our place? Or was it a defeat of Satan? Or some combination of the two?

Never ones to shy away from a controversial topic, Ray and Steve bat around a couple of thoughts about the effect our view of the atonement has on our view of our Father.  The comments are open for your thoughts in response! :)

[Note: In this episode, Ray mentions a book containing a discussion about four views of the atonement.  That book can be found at: http://www.ivpress.com/cgi-ivpress/book.pl/code=2570]