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God’s Punishment or Satan’s Defeat? Part 1

Ξ September 24th, 2008 | → | ∇ Podcast Episodes |

Ray and Steve begin a 2-part discussion about the death of Jesus on the cross.  Was the death of Jesus the punishment of God taken out on Jesus in our place? Or was it a defeat of Satan? Or some combination of the two?

Never ones to shy away from a controversial topic, Ray and Steve bat around a couple of thoughts about the effect our view of the atonement has on our view of our Father.  The comments are open for your thoughts in response! :)

[Note: In this episode, Ray mentions a book containing a discussion about four views of the atonement.  That book can be found at: http://www.ivpress.com/cgi-ivpress/book.pl/code=2570]

 
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  • Raborn: Good question Chip :) We’l l try to do an episode discussing this in the very near future. That might...
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  • Dwight P: Thanks Raborn. Appreciate the comments. Makes sense. It really helps reconcile that tension between the...
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