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	<title>Comments on: Are We Slaves or Sons?</title>
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	<description>Two guys thinking out loud about life beyond the box of institutional religion</description>
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		<title>By: Raborn</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondtheboxpodcast.com/2009/03/are-we-slaves-or-sons/comment-page-1/#comment-2746</link>
		<dc:creator>Raborn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 03:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott,
Thanks for joining in :)  Glad to have others on the journey with us.  It&#039;s cool to realize that so many of us have been walking the same path.  

Texas Flood is pretty sweet too :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott,<br />
Thanks for joining in <img src='http://www.beyondtheboxpodcast.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Glad to have others on the journey with us.  It&#8217;s cool to realize that so many of us have been walking the same path.  </p>
<p>Texas Flood is pretty sweet too <img src='http://www.beyondtheboxpodcast.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: scottfromtexas</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondtheboxpodcast.com/2009/03/are-we-slaves-or-sons/comment-page-1/#comment-2745</link>
		<dc:creator>scottfromtexas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow guys!  This is what it is all about.  I have sent the link to many people with a note. &quot;If you have been wondering about my journey listen to this.&quot;  This captures the real essence of people in &quot;The Way&quot;.  Excellent podcast.  Ok, all that&#039;s out of the way now getting the the good stuff...

SRV - Mary had a little lamb was one of the first SRV songs I had the privilege to listen to.  So it has it&#039;s place at the top, but...  I will have to go with the other Scott (which happens to be from Texas also!) on this one &quot;Life by the Drop&quot; is over the top.  Phenomenal song.  Plus the other Scott&#039;s from Austin so he&#039;s got the inside connection!  So I cast my vote for “Life by the Drop”.

P.S.too  I hear Stevie still hangs around there some times just to give a few lessons ;)  Keep it weird brother!

Thanks Steve &amp; Raborn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow guys!  This is what it is all about.  I have sent the link to many people with a note. &#8220;If you have been wondering about my journey listen to this.&#8221;  This captures the real essence of people in &#8220;The Way&#8221;.  Excellent podcast.  Ok, all that&#8217;s out of the way now getting the the good stuff&#8230;</p>
<p>SRV &#8211; Mary had a little lamb was one of the first SRV songs I had the privilege to listen to.  So it has it&#8217;s place at the top, but&#8230;  I will have to go with the other Scott (which happens to be from Texas also!) on this one &#8220;Life by the Drop&#8221; is over the top.  Phenomenal song.  Plus the other Scott&#8217;s from Austin so he&#8217;s got the inside connection!  So I cast my vote for “Life by the Drop”.</p>
<p>P.S.too  I hear Stevie still hangs around there some times just to give a few lessons <img src='http://www.beyondtheboxpodcast.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   Keep it weird brother!</p>
<p>Thanks Steve &amp; Raborn</p>
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		<title>By: Raborn</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondtheboxpodcast.com/2009/03/are-we-slaves-or-sons/comment-page-1/#comment-2744</link>
		<dc:creator>Raborn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whats up Scott? :)
Great to have you along for the ride!  

I&#039;ve gotta say, I love &quot;Mary Had a Little Lamb&quot;.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whats up Scott? <img src='http://www.beyondtheboxpodcast.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Great to have you along for the ride!  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve gotta say, I love &#8220;Mary Had a Little Lamb&#8221;.  <img src='http://www.beyondtheboxpodcast.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Scott Hall</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondtheboxpodcast.com/2009/03/are-we-slaves-or-sons/comment-page-1/#comment-2743</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi from a fellow free believer in Austin, TX.  I&#039;m new to your podcast but am enjoying it much.  Keep it up.

Scott

P.S. &quot;Life By The Drop&quot; has got to be my favorite SRV tune.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi from a fellow free believer in Austin, TX.  I&#8217;m new to your podcast but am enjoying it much.  Keep it up.</p>
<p>Scott</p>
<p>P.S. &#8220;Life By The Drop&#8221; has got to be my favorite SRV tune.</p>
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		<title>By: Raborn</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondtheboxpodcast.com/2009/03/are-we-slaves-or-sons/comment-page-1/#comment-2740</link>
		<dc:creator>Raborn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian,
You said:
&lt;i&gt;we invent tools such as evangelism to try and reconnect with the general population … and it just doesn’t work.&lt;/i&gt;

Well said.  It seems like our actions become very programmed as we are assimilated into the institutional church.  I think that some of the reason for this is that so much of the institution has been program based.  For instance, instead of natural, organic discipleship we have discipleship classes.  Instead of allowing our witness to flow out of a genuine, heart-felt relationship with our unbelieving friends, we instead attend an evangelism conference where we can learn the latest methods of evangelism.  I appreciate the intentions of those creating and involved in these kinds of ventures(I have been there and done that), but I believe that our unconditional love and relationships with others are our greatest opportunities for sharing Christ; that is not just sharing facts about Christ, but rather sharing Christ Himself!  Thanks for your comment Ian :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian,<br />
You said:<br />
<i>we invent tools such as evangelism to try and reconnect with the general population … and it just doesn’t work.</i></p>
<p>Well said.  It seems like our actions become very programmed as we are assimilated into the institutional church.  I think that some of the reason for this is that so much of the institution has been program based.  For instance, instead of natural, organic discipleship we have discipleship classes.  Instead of allowing our witness to flow out of a genuine, heart-felt relationship with our unbelieving friends, we instead attend an evangelism conference where we can learn the latest methods of evangelism.  I appreciate the intentions of those creating and involved in these kinds of ventures(I have been there and done that), but I believe that our unconditional love and relationships with others are our greatest opportunities for sharing Christ; that is not just sharing facts about Christ, but rather sharing Christ Himself!  Thanks for your comment Ian <img src='http://www.beyondtheboxpodcast.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondtheboxpodcast.com/2009/03/are-we-slaves-or-sons/comment-page-1/#comment-2739</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 09:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve &amp; Raborn,

What you discussed about basing relationships with the people who you share life with, regardless or religious conviction, is something that I have been reflecting upon lately, however it is not something that is common. 

So much of what I have taught has been to surround myself with like minded believers and that this is normative behaviour. But it just doesn&#039;t ring true in a functional sense. We get saved, we quickly get assimilated into an entirely different social environment, we become aliens to our family and friends, we invent tools such as evangelism to try and reconnect with the general population ... and it just doesn&#039;t work. It just seems like it has been inverted. 

Surely, we come into progressively experiencing new life and identity through God&#039;s action in our lives, which should then free us up to actively engage with those around us. What would happen if we remained in situ so that those around us can see, feel and experience, through observation, our new life and transformation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve &amp; Raborn,</p>
<p>What you discussed about basing relationships with the people who you share life with, regardless or religious conviction, is something that I have been reflecting upon lately, however it is not something that is common. </p>
<p>So much of what I have taught has been to surround myself with like minded believers and that this is normative behaviour. But it just doesn&#8217;t ring true in a functional sense. We get saved, we quickly get assimilated into an entirely different social environment, we become aliens to our family and friends, we invent tools such as evangelism to try and reconnect with the general population &#8230; and it just doesn&#8217;t work. It just seems like it has been inverted. </p>
<p>Surely, we come into progressively experiencing new life and identity through God&#8217;s action in our lives, which should then free us up to actively engage with those around us. What would happen if we remained in situ so that those around us can see, feel and experience, through observation, our new life and transformation?</p>
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		<title>By: Raborn</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondtheboxpodcast.com/2009/03/are-we-slaves-or-sons/comment-page-1/#comment-2738</link>
		<dc:creator>Raborn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rodney,
My mind feels like it&#039;s in a ping-pong match :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rodney,<br />
My mind feels like it&#8217;s in a ping-pong match <img src='http://www.beyondtheboxpodcast.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rodney</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondtheboxpodcast.com/2009/03/are-we-slaves-or-sons/comment-page-1/#comment-2737</link>
		<dc:creator>Rodney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No comment.

It&#039;s reverse, reverse psychology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No comment.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s reverse, reverse psychology.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 03:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Big C!  Glad to have you as part of our family here. (oops...is that a religious platitude?! hehe)

Seriously, thanks for joining us on this ride, man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Big C!  Glad to have you as part of our family here. (oops&#8230;is that a religious platitude?! hehe)</p>
<p>Seriously, thanks for joining us on this ride, man.</p>
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		<title>By: Big C</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondtheboxpodcast.com/2009/03/are-we-slaves-or-sons/comment-page-1/#comment-2735</link>
		<dc:creator>Big C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 19:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We appreciate you sooooo much.....you are a true blessing.....your crowns will be many in heaven brothers.....uh I can&#039;t remember any other worthless religious platitudes. I had to comment because you know - its just what I have to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We appreciate you sooooo much&#8230;..you are a true blessing&#8230;..your crowns will be many in heaven brothers&#8230;..uh I can&#8217;t remember any other worthless religious platitudes. I had to comment because you know &#8211; its just what I have to do.</p>
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