In the last episode (Christian Celebrity), Ray and Steve talked about the danger of putting leaders on a pedestal. The higher they are, the harder they fall, to paraphrase a saying.

In a recent phone conversation between Jeff Roney and Steve, Jeff asked the question, “What do we do when leaders fall?” It’s a great question, and one that Ray and Steve decided to share their thoughts on.

And for those who are curious after listening to the first few minutes, the Bobcats did win. :)