Following some lengthy banter, a recap of the Bearcrawling episode that Steve co-hosted, and some lousy voice impressions (!!), Ray and Steve jump into a somewhat rambling discussion about security.

Riffing off of a quote by Martin Luther, the discussion covers several elements of western culture and our tendency to try to be secure in our own strength.  Whether it’s financial security (i.e., retirement), insurance, or extended warranties, the question is begged of followers of Jesus: In what is your security found?