Folks, we’re sorry for the lack of shows lately.  The reality is that a lot has changed in life for both of us right about the start of this year, and we both have had a tough time carving out the time to get together and record.

We have every intention of returning to podcasting very soon, but in the meantime appreciate your patience in waiting for us to return.  We’re not entirely sure when we’ll return, but if you follow us on Twitter (, you’ll get updated just as soon as new episodes are released.

In the meantime, keep exploring life beyond the box!


steve and ray 🙂