Elevation Church logoIn this continuation (and conclusion) of the discussion began in the last episode, Ray and Steve continue to discuss the recent event at Elevation Church in Matthews, NC where a mom and her son with special needs were escorted from the service because of a vocal outburst by the boy.

The situation at Elevation is merely a jumping point, however, into discussion about institutional church in general and some of the many faults that Ray and Steve find with that system.  As former pastors, both Ray and Steve share personal experiences related to their life inside the institution and their feelings experienced now from outside that institution.